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	<title>Comments on: Adfree: an adblocker compromise?</title>
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		<title>By: Errant</title>
		<link>http://www.errant.me.uk/blog/2010/03/adfree-an-adblocker-compromise/comment-page-1/#comment-15728</link>
		<dc:creator>Errant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thanks for commenting with some thoughts :) (I love Adblock Plus).

I think there are answers to your points.

#1: you would use a subscription service (say $5 a month) which gives you credit to spread out as you like. Simplifies the payment scheme for the user and also stops them spending silly money by accident.

#2: I&#039;d probably not even allow custom options by default; just one or 2 variants. You&#039;d convert $5 into 500 credits to make your donation seem a lot more meaningful and then it would simply be a case of &quot;&lt;em&gt;Donate 5 of your credits to this article? or click here to donate custom amounts.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

I am not sure the proportional distribution model works as well (though your suggestion is better than others I&#039;ve seen in that it tells you after the fact which sites your contributing too and, I guess, gives options to deselect some).

I think IF you could make the monthly payment small enough that people would fire and forget the subscription - and be happy with that - then it could work :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks for commenting with some thoughts <img src='http://www.errant.me.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  (I love Adblock Plus).</p>
<p>I think there are answers to your points.</p>
<p>#1: you would use a subscription service (say $5 a month) which gives you credit to spread out as you like. Simplifies the payment scheme for the user and also stops them spending silly money by accident.</p>
<p>#2: I&#8217;d probably not even allow custom options by default; just one or 2 variants. You&#8217;d convert $5 into 500 credits to make your donation seem a lot more meaningful and then it would simply be a case of &#8220;<em>Donate 5 of your credits to this article? or click here to donate custom amounts.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>I am not sure the proportional distribution model works as well (though your suggestion is better than others I&#8217;ve seen in that it tells you after the fact which sites your contributing too and, I guess, gives options to deselect some).</p>
<p>I think IF you could make the monthly payment small enough that people would fire and forget the subscription &#8211; and be happy with that &#8211; then it could work <img src='http://www.errant.me.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wladimir Palant</title>
		<link>http://www.errant.me.uk/blog/2010/03/adfree-an-adblocker-compromise/comment-page-1/#comment-15712</link>
		<dc:creator>Wladimir Palant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I played around with that idea a while ago. The actual design was to have Adblock Plus count visits to websites that indicate their owner in some way (PayPal account or whatever) and display a dialog once a month: &quot;here are the websites you visited, wouldn&#039;t you want to donate something to support them?&quot; The amount entered would be distributed to the websites proportionally to the number of visits. While this idea isn&#039;t off the table, there most difficult problem here is the actual payment:

1. Transferring $.05 seems unrealistic with any of the existing payment services. But asking people to donate significantly more to single websites will have a negative impact on the acceptance of this feature.

2. Ideally, entering the amount and clicking &quot;OK&quot; would be enough. A feature like this should be dead simple to use. Unfortunately, initiating a transfer isn&#039;t anything like that. Most payment services require entering credit card numbers or creating accounts or both.

If you have ideas, feel free to come to the Adblock Plus forum (https://adblockplus.org/forum/index.php) and discuss them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I played around with that idea a while ago. The actual design was to have Adblock Plus count visits to websites that indicate their owner in some way (PayPal account or whatever) and display a dialog once a month: &#8220;here are the websites you visited, wouldn&#8217;t you want to donate something to support them?&#8221; The amount entered would be distributed to the websites proportionally to the number of visits. While this idea isn&#8217;t off the table, there most difficult problem here is the actual payment:</p>
<p>1. Transferring $.05 seems unrealistic with any of the existing payment services. But asking people to donate significantly more to single websites will have a negative impact on the acceptance of this feature.</p>
<p>2. Ideally, entering the amount and clicking &#8220;OK&#8221; would be enough. A feature like this should be dead simple to use. Unfortunately, initiating a transfer isn&#8217;t anything like that. Most payment services require entering credit card numbers or creating accounts or both.</p>
<p>If you have ideas, feel free to come to the Adblock Plus forum (<a href="https://adblockplus.org/forum/index.php" rel="nofollow">https://adblockplus.org/forum/index.php</a>) and discuss them.</p>
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		<title>By: Errant</title>
		<link>http://www.errant.me.uk/blog/2010/03/adfree-an-adblocker-compromise/comment-page-1/#comment-15639</link>
		<dc:creator>Errant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, I guess ;)

(the first sentence is as intended btw)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I guess <img src='http://www.errant.me.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(the first sentence is as intended btw)</p>
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		<title>By: The Web and Advertising &#187; Nevermind</title>
		<link>http://www.errant.me.uk/blog/2010/03/adfree-an-adblocker-compromise/comment-page-1/#comment-15638</link>
		<dc:creator>The Web and Advertising &#187; Nevermind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 10:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sense of self-entitlement, those that feel that ad-blocking is stealing, and those that want to find a solution that will please both [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sense of self-entitlement, those that feel that ad-blocking is stealing, and those that want to find a solution that will please both [...]</p>
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		<title>By: epochwolf</title>
		<link>http://www.errant.me.uk/blog/2010/03/adfree-an-adblocker-compromise/comment-page-1/#comment-15628</link>
		<dc:creator>epochwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 01:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea. 

You might want to proofread your article. 

&quot;if sites put up a paywall for ad blockers they lose custom.&quot;

if sites put up a paywall for ad blockers they lose [customers].

&quot;b) your not getting their custom anyway through ads&quot;

 b) [You&#039;re] not getting their [money?] through ads anyway

Taking 15 minutes to read through your post before hitting submit makes a world of difference to your readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea. </p>
<p>You might want to proofread your article. </p>
<p>&#8220;if sites put up a paywall for ad blockers they lose custom.&#8221;</p>
<p>if sites put up a paywall for ad blockers they lose [customers].</p>
<p>&#8220;b) your not getting their custom anyway through ads&#8221;</p>
<p> b) [You're] not getting their [money?] through ads anyway</p>
<p>Taking 15 minutes to read through your post before hitting submit makes a world of difference to your readers.</p>
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